body { background-color:#17191a; color:#d9d9d9; font-size: 18px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; padding-left: 20em; padding-right: 20em; } a { color: #ed6a97; text-decoration: none } a:hover { color: #933254; text-decoration: underline } Mistic Hobo Sholicast Episode Mistic Hobo Sholicast Episode ================================= **Hydro:** Welcome back to Sholicast, everybody. I'm Hydro. I'm with DrX once again. And for this episode we are joined by Mistic Hobo. Welcome, Mistic Hobo. **Mistic Hobo:** Hi! I'm glad to be here. I'm really happy to be here. **DrX:** Glad to have you. **Hydro:** Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're glad you were able to join us. So tell us a bit about the kind of work that you do. It seems like you do a lot of different art work, so can you tell us a bit about what you like to draw, what you like to depict? **Mistic Hobo:** I'm first and foremost a 2D artist and illustrator. Although I would like to, you know, expand to other forms of graphic arts like 3D and animation and stuff like that. I guess I'm taking my time and I'm sticking with what I know best. I mainly draw right now loli, at least for my work. Because I do draw other stuff that I like, other themes that I like, like fantasy and cyberpunk stuff. I do draw that every now and then, but it's a more of a personal thing. When it comes to business, I draw loli and actually pretty much anything, at least I used to draw pretty much anything that people would ask me. I didn't start Mistic Hobo with the intention to draw loli exclusively. I was just kind of trying to make a living out of art because I was in a really rough spot. You know, I started making like anything. Furry and fetish stuff, you know, normal, vanilla, women and stuff like that. But you know, I always liked loli and stuff. So I kind of feel more comfortable drawing loli. I felt it was easy and fun to me. Like I didn't have to put that much brain power into it. I don’t know how else to say it. So yeah, I kind of stuck with drawing loli. I'm happy to be drawing loli. When I say stuck, I don't mean it in a bad way. **DrX:** Oh that’s great, I’m happy you’ve been having a good experience drawing loli. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, I'm happy except I guess on Twitter. It’s a horrible place to be drawing loli. **DrX:** Yeah... \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** But any other place I've been like, having like an amazing response from the people. Like, every time I go into like a discord server, like when someone invites me, sometimes people are like “Oh my god, it's Mistic Hobo!” And I’m like, you guys know me? \*laugh\* It feels weird. I’m not amazingly popular, but I guess I'm popular enough to have like a decent amount of people know my name and it feels so trippy. And I kind of feel like embarrassed by it, but also, you know, it's kind of a little ego boost, you know, basically feel like important. \*laugh\* **DrX:** \*laugh\* **Hydro:** You probably have like a cult following amongst like loli art connoisseurs or something on Baraag or something. **Mistic Hobo:** I'm not sure about that, but I wouldn't be opposed to that, honestly. **DrX:** The cult of Mistic Hobo. **Mistic Hobo:** \*laugh\* **Hydro:** I mean, honestly, it does have a great ring to it. I like it. \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, since my whole bit is like being a magic hobo or shit like that. Yeah I guess it fits, it somewhat fits. **DrX:** Yeah, I can see why your art is popular. I like your art in general, but I really like the way you draw the loli chests. Very good. \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Oh, yes, I get a fixation in certain body parts. Like I like feet, I like chests and of course, genitals. \*laugh\* And so I kind of pay extra attention to those certain features. Like so, yeah, I kind of, I really like how the flat chest looks. I’ve always been like a small titty enjoyer. So yeah, I kind of pay extra attention to those bits and I'm glad you like it. **DrX:** Yeah. That might explain why the transition to doing more loli art worked out for you. Because you kind of liked the smaller chests. I know on Twitter, I guess the most popular stuff is having really huge breasts for the female characters. **Mistic Hobo:** Yes, which I don't hate actually, I actually like that, but it's not... I have tried drawing that and I have a tough time doing it. Honestly, I guess it's, it's something about practice, you know, the saying "practice makes perfect." And I guess I have like an affinity to certain body types and that's what I've drawn pretty much all my life. Since I was like very young, I've been drawing. I’ve always drawn women like very slim and small, I guess that's always been my type. **DrX:** Like you were destined to draw loli. \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, you could say that. **DrX:** So back then, would you draw anime characters, or cartoon characters or like original characters? What were you most drawn to drawing? **Mistic Hobo:** I started drawing since a really young age. You know the story, pretty much everyone has the same origin story with drawing. Like I was watching Dragon Ball Z and I was like, this is the best shit ever. \*laugh\* I want to draw these amazing fucking super cool guys, super muscular guys, fucking fighting and stuff like that. So I started like, you know, trying to mimic Toriyama's style. It basically evolved into a more anime style, something that made me different to a lot of artists. Like I see many people that say, oh, I started just drawing like characters I saw on TV, I tried tracing and stuff like that. For me, I guess I was a really creative kid because I never actually - of course I did like draw characters that I saw on TV, like from anime and cartoon shows. I always preferred to make my own characters. I always liked to be creative and make my own superheroes, my own girls, my own cool looking guys, my own edge lord original character. \*laugh\* It's been always like that. So I've always been designing characters over and over and making original characters. Over the years I've amassed a huge amount of original characters that maybe most of them I don't even remember. So yeah, I guess that makes me different from most people because I've seen from talking to people, from even listening to your podcast. Some guests here say "I traced these drawings so that's how I learned" or I drew one of the Naruto characters, Dragon Ball characters. For me no, I never had like that drive to draw what I saw. It's more like I took reference from what I saw and then like tried to incorporate those little, oh, I like how this guy draws the noses in Naruto. For example, I like the way Naruto characters' noses look so I'm going to try to incorporate that to my characters when I draw and that's kind of what I did. **DrX:** Were there any characters that you had made in your childhood that you still draw today? **Mistic Hobo:** Childhood? Not really. In my teen years, I do still have characters that I hold very close to my heart. I even consider most of them as my child, my sons and daughters. Like I couldn't even try to draw them in a lewd way because you know, it's a part of me. It's unconceivable for me. But yeah, I do have characters - really old characters - that I hold really close to me and really important for me. **DrX:** In regards to the loli characters that you draw on your Baraag, like the lewd stuff. Are they usually pre-established characters or are some of them still OCs? **Mistic Hobo:** The OC stuff is more of a personal thing. I don't really do OCs for my Mistic Hobo persona. I do have some OCs on my quote unquote "Mistic Hobo universe" or however you might want to call it. There's Maddie, which is a red head Irish girl and there’s Claudia my vampire loli OC and that's pretty much it. When it comes to my art with Mistic Hobo, I pretty much just do fan art and whatever people commission me to do because this is first and foremost my job. Okay, so I do this to get money. I know it may sound like bad because some people would expect me to say I do this for the love of art, which I do. Of course, I love drawing loli. I love drawing, I love art. But I'm in a situation where I need money. I don't really have the option to get a normal job here where I live. I don't live in the US. I live in a third world country. I can say it. It's Venezuela. You know, if you've ever heard of Venezuela, you maybe fully know this. We have a really bad situation economically speaking. So like a normal job here pays nothing. The minimum monthly wage is less than 40 dollars. So imagine having 40 dollars for a whole month. **DrX:** Yeah, that’s crazy. **Hydro:** Uh, I'm pretty sure DrX and I would be living out of a cardboard box \*laugh\* if we made that much. **Mistic Hobo:** \*laugh\* Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's impossible to live here because it's not like prices here are matching the wage. No, no. You have normal prices. For my weekly groceries, I've been spending on average 50 dollars and the monthly wage is 40. So yeah, making art, It's like my main source of income. So I treat it more as a business than as a hobby. So that's why I focus on making fanart and stuff that people would like so I can get more support. **DrX:** Yeah. I mean, it’s completely fine to make money off of your art. That’s not a bad thing. I’m glad you have this as your job, since you do like doing art anyways. And because the situation you’re in, you can make a fair amount of money more than you would reasonably be able to in your country and situation. So I’m really glad you’ve had this opportunity and I have to thank Baraag and Koi for giving you that opportunity as well as other artists. **Mistic Hobo:** Oh yeah, totally 100%. Like, Baraag has been like a life saver for me because I started on Pixiv and Twitter, which were the only places I could think of that would give me like a platform to sell my art. Pixiv, although it allows loli, it's not like the best place do business. You know, it's like, it's filled with a lot of lurkers and you know, that this is not a good place. And Twitter is just really well, you know, how it's really hostile towards loli. It's a cesspool of a social media platform. So yeah, Baraag has been an amazing place. Like, I got a friend. My friend, who is called Pencil Friend \*laugh\* - That's his name. This artist’s name. He's the one that introduced me to Baraag and even the loli artist community. Like I found him on a discord server like at random. Like I was like, hey, because I was trying to advertise myself on discord servers. Like hey, I do commissions. Like if you want me to draw something for you, I charge like 15. (I charged 15 bucks back then). And he went to me and said, Like, “hey, do you want to get into this place with me?” “There's like a bunch of loli artists that I draw with.” It was like a drawpile thing. And I started drawing with them. Sakuramoto, who is a real old artist, pretty much taught me to draw loli because I didn't draw loli back then. Like I didn't know how to draw like a young body, a child body. I just did women, you know, I didn't have any reference, like any way to know how to draw a young girl. And he kind of taught me the basics and they introduced me to Baraag and it was like, wow, this is amazing. This is like Twitter, but it’s way friendlier. I’m really grateful for Baraag. **DrX:** Yeah, that’s awesome. **Hydro:** So you actually got like, you almost had like a mentor for learning how to draw the cunny, basically. \*laugh\* **DrX:** \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Pretty much. Like, it’s not only Saku, who I do consider my mentor because he's the one that kind of taught me everything, but it was like more of a community effort. Like I got into that little community. It’s a really small community of artists that draw in an old as fuck flash drawing program. It's a flash era online drawing program. It's like pretty much online MS paint. \*laugh\* It's that old. So it’s a really tight community. But Saku is right now on Baraag. So, shout out to him. He’s pretty much my master. So yeah, Sakuramoto. **Hydro:** That's amazing. Like, I mean, so you really started off kind of just not knowing how to draw loli. Then you got into it as you kind of transitioned over to Baraag and now you've essentially built up, I think you have almost like 7000 followers. So you really kind of like started right from ground zero and, and just built up your following, did fan art and now you actually have made like a business out of it. That's super great to have that kind of accomplishment. And of course, you always can keep growing and growing because, you know, when it comes to loli and shota artwork, I feel like that there's just a really untapped potential market for people who really want to see like more NSFW stuff of loli characters, especially fan art. And you know, I'm sure whenever a brand new show comes out or a new anime comes out and there and there are some cute loli characters that’s in it, I'm sure you get tons of like commission requests because that's the advantage of fan art is whatever is really popular at the moment. If you're capable of drawing that character and other potential commissioners know that you're available to do that, then you get business from them. It's a great cycle. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, totally. Sometimes even the fanart I do out of boredom has even gotten me commissions. It is kind of trippy. It's like there's so much... There's so much coincidence that it almost feels like it’s magic, like someone controlling it. Because for example, it's been so so many times that I just draw something, usually something popular, right? But sometimes I even just draw a character that I like, just, you know, for the sake of it because I was bored and I wanted to draw something. And then someone goes like, “Hey, I saw this character you drew.” “I love that character, let me pay you to keep drawing more of that character.” I was like damn, a random thought in my mind made me draw this and now I'm getting paid for it. \*laugh\* It’s trippy, I don’t know. **Hydro:** \*laugh\* Well, I mean that's the dream as an artist right? You basically can just draw something you randomly thought about, you post it, then you get people who like it and then eventually you get people who like it enough that they want to commission more art of it. I mean, that’s the perfect system, perfect setup there when you can do that. **DrX:** So have you also done any kind of animation art? **Mistic Hobo:** I've done some animations. The thing is I’m kind of, I'm kind of scared of animation. Like, even though I say I want to make animations, I'm kind of scared of it because it's like a lot of work. I’ve been illustrating for so long that all of these new things you have to do for animations, like all of these little details you have to do... They’re kind of overwhelming, you know, especially with 3D animation. I also want to make 3D stuff. And I open Blender and I get scared. \*laugh\* There’s so much stuff. There's so many options, so many tabs, so many tools. I'm like, yeah, no and I close Blender. \*laugh\* **Hydro:** \*laugh\* “Well, gonna check that out another day.” **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, yeah. **DrX:** What might help with Blender is if you just start with the basics rather than trying to start learning animation right away. So that way it'll be a little easier on you so you're not as overwhelmed by the UI. Because I know when you open Blender there's a bunch of fuckin’ buttons everywhere. \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Exactly. **DrX:** So it can be a little overwhelming for people. **Mistic Hobo:** Too many buttons, that’s scary. **DrX:** \*laugh\* What program do you use to make your art? **Mistic Hobo:** For pretty much all my art career, I've been using Krita, which is an open source free art program. **Hydro:** Yeah, open source! Nice. \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, being open source, it’s really fun because it's highly customizable. I got a bunch of stuff on Krita like themes and brushes and anything you can think of. Because it's open source people make a shit ton of stuff for Krita. I used Photoshop before Krita and before that my first ever art software was a program called Corel Painter. I don't know if it's any popular or not. Honestly, I never heard of anyone using it, but I just wanted to mention it. You know, Photoshop is like not mainly built for art. Like you can totally do art with it and many amazing artists do art in Photoshop and it turns out amazing. But I guess I didn't feel really comfortable with it. And I found Krita and it was free and it looked nice and I was like, yeah, let's just try this. It’s really similar to Photoshop, so I didn’t have to relearn the program. You know I just downloaded it, and started drawing. Zero problems. It’s been amazing. **DrX:** Nice. **Hydro:** I think a lot of people don't realize that, like, open source is actually incredibly valuable for, you know, artists like yourself or creators that are maybe in a financial situation where they wouldn't be able to afford something expensive like you know, a monthly subscription to Adobe's Photoshop or you know, some really advanced program that's like $500 upfront. So open source is actually pretty amazing for people who may want to get into drawing or get into some kind of creative thing like Blender with 3D animation that's totally free and open source. So you may financially not have many resources, but thankfully open source and all the communities out there that make those programs free and available to learn. And then you're able to, you know, potentially start a business or start making income by using those program is pretty great. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah it's absolutely amazing. I've had a lot of friends that tell me that they want to start doing art and they ask me "I want to start drawing, I already downloaded Clip Studio Paint," for example, which is one of the most popular programs. But when they say “downloaded” they mean “pirated.” \*laugh\* **DrX & Hydro:**\*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** They didn't pay for that. So of course, if you know how to pirate stuff, be my guest, go ahead. I don’t really mind. But I have friends that are not really internet savvy, if you know what I mean. **Hydro:** \*laugh\* I know where this is going. \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, so it's kind of dangerous. They just go ahead and download Clip Studio Paint from the first web page they get on. And who knows what's in that program besides the paint software? Who knows what else is in the... So I just go, why don't you just download Krita, it's free. You know it's clean and it's as good as any professional art program. This is my tip for any beginner artist, just download Krita. \*laugh\* Honestly, it’s like... It's way safer. Like you said, it's right there. It's open source, it's free and it's as good as any other one. It gets updates every three, four months with tons of new stuff. You can do animation on Krita too. You can do vector art. You can do of course photo editing. **Hydro:** So what you're really saying is, is Step One: download Krita. Step Two: ??? Step Three: profit. Wow! \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah. **DrX:** In terms of learning how to draw, what kind of advice can you give people? I know the first step is to download Krita, of course, \*laugh\* but what comes after? **Mistic Hobo:** Honestly, I always say the same thing when people ask me some tips for starting to draw. They always get angry at me because I always say the same thing. But the best thing is just drawing. But when I say that, I mean take it seriously. Like do it. Like don't draw once every month or every time you feel bored. Just draw as much as you can. Draw anything you see. Draw your hands, draw your feet, draw your face, draw characters. Draw clothes, draw people in the street. Draw anything. At any time, any place you are, draw. That way you'll learn to see and translate what you see to lines. If you see someone's face, you won't see just a face. You will see the basic shapes that come from that face. That's the key to learning to draw. Like when you draw, you are pretty much just making basic shapes and building something way more complex out of those basic shapes. And you just start to figure out how to like take those shapes from your surroundings. Or even just drawings. Like if you want to make fanart from, I don't know, Molly Mcgee for example. She's a real cute character that I like. You need to look at her and you need to like see what shapes she's built from. That's my tip for drawing. You need to learn how to see the shapes in everything, how to build whatever you want to draw with those shapes. **DrX:** Very cool, yeah, that’s great advice. Kind of just, learning the language of art, essentially. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, that's an interesting way to say it - language of art. I never heard that. It sounds really deep. **DrX:** \*laugh\* Yes. **Hydro:** Yes, you learn how everybody's actually made of squares and circles. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, pretty much like, yeah, because people are always like "I'm going to draw a nose" and they just like put details on lines where they shouldn't be... I'm not going to go into detail because that's a bit more technical stuff. \*laugh\* But yeah, just start drawing and don't give up because it's something that takes time. That's also something really important. It takes a lot of time. Like some people may take less, some people may take more, but it takes time for everyone. There's no artist on this planet that just grabbed a pencil and then started doodling on a piece of paper. And then boom, next day, he is amazing. No, no, everyone took years of training themselves, years of learning different techniques to be in the place they are. **Hydro:** Yeah, I mean, think about how much like Toriyama must have drawn. Like, my God, he probably drew hundreds of thousands of images during his lifetime. **Mistic Hobo:** 100%. Yeah, I get it. You know, people really want to be good really fast. But nothing in this life is that easy. You gotta train yourself for it. Also educate yourself. That's another tip. That's my last tip. Educate yourself. It's as easy as just getting on YouTube and watching some art tutorials. It's as easy as that because education gets you a long way. I drew by myself for years and I'm pretty sure if I had an artistic education, I would have been like way more advanced by now. I had my little dark age of art because you know, I didn’t have anyone to teach me. I think for some reason I didn't look up, uh, tutorials on the internet. Like, I kind of got stuck drawing the same stuff and that's not good. You have to educate yourself. **DrX:** Yeah, that makes complete sense. And since on Baraag, you're mostly a loli artist, or at least that's a lot of your drawings, how did you get into loli in the first place? **Mistic Hobo:** Oh man. That's an interesting question because I don't really know where to begin. Like if I look really, really far into my childhood, I would watch cartoons and I would see a little cute girl on the cartoon and I was like, she's cute. I like her. I, I, I want her to be my girlfriend \*laugh\* and stuff like that. **DrX:** \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** So I don't know if that counts as me liking loli back then. If you mean loli as a genre, loli as a genre, man... But I believe I saw lolicon even before I had a concept for lolicon. I'm pretty sure maybe my first ever exposure to lolicon was most likely Gwen Tennyson porn on rule 34. \*laugh\* **DrX:** Classic. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah. Most likely that. But then when I got into anime and I got into the community and stuff, inevitable stumble into the lolicon genre and I was like, oh, so this is loli. Okay, I like this. **DrX:** \*laugh\* So that was when you actually knew of the term loli. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah. Pretty much when I got into anime, that's when I learned that loli was a genre. Before that, it was just people making art of young girls. And in my innocence, back then I thought they were like around my age. So yeah, I thought there were like 10, 11 year old \*laugh\* kids drawing Gwen \*laugh\* naked and stuff like that. **DrX:** you **Hydro:** So you actually thought \*laugh\* you thought it was like other kids drawing like Gwen basically? \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah. Because I don't know. It's like the thing is I had like unsupervised internet access since very young. So yeah, like I figured if I'm on the internet looking at this shit, there must be other kids also on the internet looking at this shit. So it wasn't that big of a leap to think that there's also like a really talented kid \*laugh\* that is drawing Gwen Twennyson porn or any other loli character. **DrX:** That's almost inspirational like if you see that like uh some art and you think it was made by someone of the same age you're like holy shit like if they can do it I can do that too. \*laugh\* **Hydro:** That's true, that's true. **Mistic Hobo:** And no, for real, that's kind of what pushed me into drawing. It was between Dragon Ball and the stuff I saw in the internet. I would see people drawing the characters I like. And I was like, man, I can do that. **DrX:** That worked out in the end. **Mistic Hobo:** It totally worked. I don't regret anything. I was a really bad student. Back in school, I would not make any of my homework. I would like fail every test, every exam. Why? Because I spent every second in class drawing on my notebook. I did nothing but draw. Nothing. And back then, like, my friends would be like, “Hey, let's go.” “Let's go play in the yard, you know, play some football or something.” Oh, I mean soccer. **DrX & Hydro:** \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** “Let’s play some soccer.” And I'm like, no thanks. I'm good here, I’m drawing. Yeah, I spent all my childhood and my teen years just drawing. I barely, barely graduated. \*laugh\* Yeah, I pretty much cheated my way through school. Like I had a friend that was like that kid that always got an A plus and everything. So he was my friend and I was like, man, please help me. And that's how I cheated my way through school. **DrX & Hydro:** \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** Because I never did anything. I just cheated, copied his homework and everything and that's how I graduated pretty much. **DrX:** \*laugh\* **Hydro:** I mean, but that's a pretty great friend, though, because like, you wanted to stick with your art and wanted to do your drawing and you know, you were willing to do whatever it took to stay that kind of path. So you have to kind of almost thank your friend for, you know, being willing to help you with that because you want to pursue your art. And now here you are able to make a living off of this. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, that was like a very important part of my life. If I didn't do that, I guess I wouldn't be here. So yeah, he is the one that saved me from still being in school today, I guess. \*laugh\* **DrX:** At that time, did you have a dream of making a living from your art? **Mistic Hobo:** Oh, yes, since very young. I wanted to make a living out of my art. I always had my phases. I wanted to make video games first. I wanted to do concept art. I still want to do the concept art, though. Then I wanted to do animation. Then I wanted to do concept art again, then animation again, then video games again. So I've always wanted to live off of art. I always wanted to be an artist, whether that's animation, whether that's 3D, whether that's illustration, since really young. I knew I wanted to dedicate my life to art. **DrX:** And in the end, you did manage to make a living off of art and continue to do so. And that’s amazing. I'm happy for you, honestly. **Mistic Hobo:** I feel proud of myself. I sometimes get a little depressed and stuff. “Ugh man, I'm not as good as I should be.” But sometimes I look through my old drawings and I see how much I've grown in comparison to my first drawings. And I can see like a really hard difference on quality. And I feel proud of myself. **Hydro:** That's awesome. I mean, to quote Bob Ross, who does all the painting stuff, he says, for artists or creative people, you always want to be plagued by dissatisfaction, meaning you always want to feel like you can do better the next time. Because if you say, you know, if you think to yourself, “oh well, this is the best artwork I'll ever do,” well then you're never going to be able to make even better art in the future or have the mindset of I can always get better and better **Mistic Hobo:** That's a conversation I had with a friend not long ago. \*laugh\* That's funny. I told him pretty much that if you don't feel like you can do better, then you're going to get stuck. **DrX:** I know you mentioned the body parts that you like, but are there any kinds of kinks you like or types of lolis you like? Or things you especially like to draw? **Mistic Hobo:** Oh, man, I do have a bunch of kinks. \*laugh\* A bunch of - like a ton of them. I don't usually draw my kinks in art. I kind of tend to make it slightly vanilla, maybe a little foot focus because I, you know, there's a lot of people that like feet. I like feet too. With loli body types, I have kind of a rule. Flat chest rule. **DrX:** Very good. **Mistic Hobo:** I don't really mind it. I don’t really mind the mosquito bites or the little budding breast. **DrX:** Yeah. **Mistic Hobo:** But I'm more of a flat chest enjoyer, I like ‘em flat. It looks better to me. When it comes to body type or, you know, age range or anything. As long it’s flat, \*laugh\* I pretty much like it. I like, you know, the more chubby ones. I like the skinny ones. I like them all because they are cute. I don’t really have a really big preference. When it comes to kinks, well I like feet. I do have a little fixation for teeth. I wouldn't consider it to be sexual in nature, but I do have like this little fixation that I like to draw like really nice teeth. I really like teeth, how they look. **Hydro:** This probably coincides with your vampire loli OC \*laugh\* I’m taking it, probably? **Mistic Hobo:** Yes, yes, yes, yes, but I wanted an excuse to draw big fangs and teeth. **Hydro:** \*laugh\* I figured. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, a vampire is the perfect way. So yeah, I might have a little fixation. Wouldn't consider it sexual, though, but it is - I guess it could be a kink. Also, like armpits. It's funny because I used to hate armpits, but a friend of mine convinced me that they were hot, like he fucking gaslighted me \*laugh\* into liking them. And now I'm stuck with an armpit fetish. Thanks to him. **DrX:** \*laugh\* **Hydro:** Well, I mean, loli armpits are pretty great. I mean, you can rub up against them and everything. So I can understand that one for sure. **Mistic Hobo:** Also, I kind of like sadomasochist stuff. Like I kind of have a kink for masochist girls, and lolis of course. Girls that like to feel pain and stuff like that. Like I feel like it's really hot for me. \*laugh\* Like, it’s not just like guro. When it comes to guro, it's just someone suffering. For me, it’s more hot when that girl is enjoying that suffering. That's what I like the most. So, masochists. I like that. That comes with all the BDSM stuff, like choking, you know, the bruising and stuff like that. So yeah, that's the sort of my more hardcore kinks. Yeah, I think that's it. Like I have little kinks, like I don’t know, bobcuts and glasses and braces, piercings, freckles. **Hydro:** It kind of makes me think about what you were talking about earlier, where you like the little details and things. So things like piercings and things like braces and stuff like that. Those are like little details, but they're fun ‘cause they add more to a characte. Like, you know, adding braces to like a loli character. And of course, relates to the teeth thing too. That can add a lot of personality to them. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, \*laugh\* I feel like I'm being psychoanalyzed right now. \*laugh\* **Hydro:** \*laugh\* Yeah well I mean it's probably because I kind of like... I love personally when like a character with braces gets their braces jizzed on. I always like that. For some reason that just really gets to me. And gets me feeling something when that happens. So I can relate on that one. **DrX:** I guess with the armpit thing it’s like, well it’s right next to the chest, so it’s part of the package, you know what I mean? Like a flat chest and the armpits? I just had that thought. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, when I say I hated them, I actually don’t think I hated them. I was just like, man, I don't get it. He would be like, “Oh man, armpits are so hot.” “Like look at this picture of an armpit.” I'm like, bro, I don't get it. Like this is just - it's just a piece of skin. You know, I don't see the appeal, but I don't know what the fuck he did. I don’t know if he made some kind of spell on me or some shit, but he somehow... he gaslit me into liking them. I don't know. I don’t know at what point, one day I just woke up and I saw a picture of a girl’s armpit and I was like, “Damn, that’s pretty hot.” **Hydro:** \*laugh\* Well you know people are kind of like that with feet too. You know, some people that they're just kind of like I don't get it with feet and other people are just like, man, I love it. I personally, I think feet stuff is fine and I do like footjob stuff and that kind of stuff is fun. I like it. But other people are just kind of like “ehh, whatever” or some people are just like, “I don't get it.” “I don't get the appeal of feet and toes and stuff.” But for you, is the feet thing probably like one of your top things that you like? I mean, you did mention it as being one of your favorite things. **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, I really like feet. Not as extreme as some people because like everything, it comes on a little spectrum and you know, some people like feet in other ways. Some people like stinky feet, some people like dirty feet. Some people like to get stepped on and stuff like that. I'm more of a just looking at feet guy. Like I just like to see how they look and how cute they are, maybe touching them and stuff like that. Not that big on smell and stuff like that, no. **Hydro:** Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that one. I like the visual of the feet, but I generally like to see my feet clean. \*laugh\* If I have to look at them up close or in detail, I like to see them nice and clean. **Mistic Hobo:** Yes. **Hydro:** And because, you know, I work with Highware with Degen Comics and I can tell that Highware also really puts a lot of like emphasis on like feet and hands and stuff. And I like it. So I like that he puts that detail in. **Mistic Hobo:** Oh yeah. Highware is amazing. I'm not only an artist. I am a big consumer \*laugh\* of art too. Like I won't lie. I have like my favorite guys that I, you know, take my alone time with. \*laugh\* \*laugh\* You know what I mean? **DrX & Hydro:** \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** So Highware is definitely one of them. I absolutely love everything he does. Like the way he draws lolis is so, so cute. Like from the chest to their feet, from everything. I absolutely love Highware. **Hydro:** Oh yeah, I agree. I mean, that's the reason why I was so excited and privileged to work with him on Degen Comics because to me he's like almost like the pinnacle of what loli and shota artists are. Basically, I put him up there with the best of ‘em. **Mistic Hobo:** Definitely, yeah. **DrX:** Now, it seems like you’re currently taking commissions? **Mistic Hobo:** Yeah, I'm constantly taking in commissions because like I said, it's pretty much my job. So, I can't really put a pause to it. Sometimes I do maybe because I feel bad, maybe because I've got enough money to get by. But usually I'm always open on commissions. **DrX:** And you’ve also got a fanbox, is that right? **Mistic Hobo:** I do have a fanbox, yeah. It's kind of dead. \*laugh\* Like I've pretty much had like the same eight guys and that's how much for years now. Which, shout out to them because they are like super loyal to me. I think they always support me. But yeah, it's a really small fanbox, but it's there and it totally has helped me in tough times because, you know, that monthly little 80 bucks that fanbox gives me sometimes really helps a lot. **DrX:** Oh, that's good. So, yeah, everyone who's listening, if you take a look at Mistic Hobo’s art and you enjoy it, support him. And he lives in a certain country where it's hard to make a living. So, consider that too, that you'll really be helping someone out who's not in like the necessarily the best kind of circumstance. **Hydro:** Yeah, that’s right and like a little can go a long way in that kind of circumstance. **DrX:** So do you have any plans for the future for your art like milestones you want to hit or maybe things you especially want to improve on or like projects you want to do? **Mistic Hobo:** Oh, I have a bunch of projects I want to make. The thing is I struggle to find the time, but I really want to make a few comics. **DrX:** Oh, cool. **Mistic Hobo:** I don't know how many details I want to give away. I want to make, for example, a comic for my OCs. Wouldn’t be that much of a comic, would be more like a little vignette. Like two panels, three panels every week, you know, just making a little joke and stuff like that. Wouldn't be like an actual story. I do want to make like actual, I don't know, 15, 20 pages comics about certain topics. Like I wanted to make something about the new Superman show, Lois and Superman. You know, there's this loli Flip and she's like this little businesswoman. I really like that girl. She's really cute. She's so sassy and cute. So I wanted to make a comic about her for the longest time. I also want to make a comic about her and my favorite character from Gravity Falls, which is Sus. Soos I mean, Soos. **Hydro:** Oh, Soos! \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** I love that guy, I love that guy. I kind of feel like he's like the best character in the show. So I kind of want to make him, you know, fuck every girl in the show. Just because. I feel like it's helping my homie out, you know. He's my bro and I want to help him get some puss, you know. **DrX:** \*laugh\* **Mistic Hobo:** I think I want to make comics and something big and something cool that people would appreciate. I actually kind of redesigned all my fanbox and subscribestar to fit a new artistic process I had going on. Like I want people that subscribe to help me make it better art. The details are on my fanbox. It’s more of a, people vote for certain stuff for certain characters and I will try to make the best piece of art out of that character monthly. Because what I had going on with my fanbox was like trying to please everyone. Like everyone would request a character and I would try to draw as many of them as I could. But that's not really good like that. You know, the quality had to be lower. And sometimes I would like rush some drawings and stuff because I tried to please everyone. But now I made it in a way that it's more democratic, I guess, and I can make like really high quality art out of it. That's kind of my plans for the future. Like I want to make high quality stuff. I want to be the fucking next Alke. \*laugh\* You know. That guy is one of my favorite artists and I want to be like him. I want to be like the next Alke. I want to be the next FIZ-ROT. That's a guy that I also admire a lot and I want to achieve that quality. I feel like I'm close but not quite yet. So I want to be like them. I want to be someone known for the art quality, someone known for amazing art. **DrX:** Yeah. **Hydro:** I think you will get there. I mean, I think you have the right mindset with your art where you're always looking to improve and taking inspiration from other artists. I mean, I mean, I think that's really the basis for all artistic people, is that they take inspiration from what they love or what they like. And, you know, I think that's smart what you did with your fanbox, because I think a good rule of thumb to follow when you're trying to draw art for your supporters and your fans is you want to give them a choice, right? Like they choose from like three or four characters, but they need to be characters that you yourself are interested in drawing, right? So basically what ends up happening is you're kind of doing like a controlled vote where you're giving them choices and maybe their choices they suggested and you choose from a certain amount of suggestions. And then when the vote is over and the one who wins, you go, oh well, that's great because I want to draw one of them anyway. \*laugh\* So it works out. It kind of is a win win for everybody. When you're more into the subject matter or the character you want to draw, that's going to improve your quality because you're going to want to put more time into it. **Mistic Hobo:** Totally, yeah. When I feel like that I have a connection, the result is it's way better. When I draw something that I don’t particularly like or care about, the result is usually a hit or miss. Maybe it looks amazing. Maybe it doesn't look as good as it could have been. But yeah, when you have your heart on something that you're making, it always turns out good. **DrX:** So where can people find you, what sites are you on? **Mistic Hobo:** Well, I'm currently, of course, on Baraag. That’s pretty much my main in social media, where I post everything I do. You can also check my pixiv out, which is kind of abandoned. \*laugh\* Like I do update it every now and then, but like I don't pay that much of attention on it. Of course, you can also follow me on Twitter. I made a new Twitter recently that I would try to post safe for work stuff, you know, because I do want to be on Twitter just because there's like, you know, there's a lot of people there. So I kind of want to tap into that. So if you want to follow me on twitter, don’t expect NSFW art on there. But any support would be appreciated. Also don't be afraid to contact me on Discord for any commission or stuff. Just to talk like, I'm a pretty shy guy, but I don't mind people talking to me. **DrX:** Sweet. Yeah, so, people check out his stuff. He takes commissions and he also has a fanbox, so that'd be a great way to support him. It was great having you on. It was really a awesome discussion about art and the stuff you like for lolis or kinks and stuff like that. Really fun. **Mistic Hobo:** It was amazing to be here. Honestly, I was pretty nervous and anxious about it, but I had a blast. I had a fun time talking to you guys. **DrX:** Yeah, we did too! **Hydro:** See, we told you \*laugh\* we told you you’d feel good! We're really, really happy that you were on and had a good time Mistic Hobo Links ================= [Baraag](https://baraag.net/@MisticHobo) [Fanbox](https://mistic-hobo.fanbox.cc/) [Twitter](https://twitter.com/PG13_Hobo)